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Who are you, and where do you work as an SEO specialist?

I’m Chantal Smink, an SEO specialist with 14 years of experience. I first got into SEO by chance at TUI Nederland, and after holding various roles, I now work primarily out of Zeeland with clients throughout the Netherlands. Together with Jerrel, I co-own B2Brands. We collaborate a lot, but we also have our own independent client bases. I have a strong focus on the Dutch market because of my passion for content in Dutch. The initial idea was to build B2Brands as a brand, but we both still work under our own names. That’s convenient because our names are better known than our company name!

How did you first get into SEO?

I first got into SEO at TUI Nederland when we wanted to build a youth brand that would compete with companies like GOGO and Beachmasters. The manager asked if I wanted to focus on SEO—without me even knowing what it entailed. After doing some Google searches and learning a lot from Peter van der Graaf, I really got into it. I quickly discovered that I found SEO interesting and decided to pursue it further.

Have you chosen a specialization within SEO, and if so, why?

In my role at Maxlead, I had to handle a wide range of SEO tasks, from technical audits to creating redirect lists. I soon realized that I found more fulfillment in content creation and writing engaging copy. Content seemed to deliver results faster, which motivated me to explore this aspect of SEO further. Back then, I personally contributed a lot to “cluttering the index”—as I call it now—with blogs and articles on all sorts of topics, which at the time still easily generated traffic.

How have you seen SEO change over the past few years?

Over the past two or three years, there has been an acceleration in this trend, partly due to machine learning and AI. Google can now understand what’s on a page much better. The rules that have been in place since Panda in 2010 have been refined, and Google should now truly have the tools to identify poor-quality content. Whereas SEO content used to easily generate traffic, we now see that too many players are doing too much of the same thing, and that’s no longer the key to success. You really have to deliver quality to achieve lasting success.

How do you make sure you stay up to date on trends?

I closely follow thought leaders such as Lily Ray, Will Reynolds, Rand Fishkin, Aleyda Solis, and Andrew Holland, especially during major updates. In addition, I regularly check search results myself, both in the Netherlands and the U.S. By monitoring trends myself, I can substantiate my ideas and findings and respond to changes without blindly adopting other people’s interpretations.

Which SEO trends are you currently capitalizing on?

I’m currently focusing on creating valuable and sustainable content that truly aligns with what users are looking for, rather than on quick gains with SEO content. I also work with clients on broader content strategies that include other formats, such as videos and podcasts, so that they’re better aligned with Google’s changing SERPs and algorithms.

Chantal bij De Tafel van SEO

“SEO can't be the responsibility of a single department; you really need the entire organization to build visibility.”

What do you think will be the biggest challenge for SEO in the future?

The growing role of international players such as Amazon and major publishers—who seem to be receiving increasing priority from Google—poses a huge challenge for smaller players. In addition, the globalization of search results—such as translated content from international platforms—poses a threat to local content. I believe companies need to focus on a broader marketing strategy, incorporating organic marketing rather than relying solely on SEO, in order to remain competitive in the long term.

You spend a lot of time sharing information, including on LinkedIn. What motivates you to do that?

My main motivation is sharing knowledge and my own story. What started as a kind of professional journal has grown into a platform for interaction and sharing insights. I enjoy the conversations and responses that follow, and the feeling that my content can inspire others or get them thinking.

Questions about the content for Chantal

I use frameworks like QPAFFCCGMIM (a framework I developed myself), which I use to truly understand the client’s situation and look beyond keyword research; I haven’t done keyword research in years to determine what we’re going to talk about. By delving deeply into the context of the target audience, I can create more relevant content that better addresses their needs.

Prioritization often comes down to assessing the impact of each project. For B2B clients, for example, I look at which customer groups convert the fastest or have the most potential value, and I focus on those areas first. In addition, we sometimes work with the client to decide what would be most valuable to tackle first.

User signals definitely have an impact, especially now that Google is getting better and better at determining which content is relevant to the user. Signals such as clicks, time on page, and interaction indicate how valuable a page is. I’ve noticed that when the technical aspects are in order, high-quality content often performs better thanks to positive user signals. I was recently conducting research for a client that had lost almost all of its traffic. When you look at what was ranking at the time, it was competitors whose approach offered much better information or pages that directly addressed the searcher’s pain point or capitalized on it. Those other companies understood what people want to know and how to get the click. That’s when you’re doing it right: you know how to earn the click, but also how to truly “reward” the visitor for it. Google is bound to recognize that in user signals.

I measure performance at different levels, depending on the client and what we’re doing for them. For some clients, I look at the growth in branded traffic, which indicates that their brand is becoming better known. I see that as an important sign that organic marketing is working well. In addition, I use traditional SEO metrics such as rankings and traffic, but I also pay attention to qualitative indicators, such as how many new people a client reaches on social media, how often their content is shared, and how many people reach out as a result of the content. My reports look different for every client.

Do you have an example of a recent case or project you’re proud of?

One project I’m proud of is a collaboration in the medical sector. By not only creating SEO content but also launching videos and podcasts, we now dominate the SERP for key search terms with a variety of content types. This project really demonstrates how you can make an impact with a broad-based approach.

Are you also exploring the relationship between SEO and other marketing channels?

Absolutely. These days, SEO can no longer be viewed in isolation from other channels. For example, technical SEO ensures fast load times, which also helps drive conversions from other channels. In that sense, we also focus on creating content that can be shared on social media and other platforms, ensuring the client maintains broad visibility. In my view, you can no longer create content solely for SEO. Helpful content requires different investments than SEO content. So you need to spread that investment across other channels.

Have you ever completely failed at SEO?

Yes, I once had a web store—a real B-label, run-of-the-mill operation—as a client. I really wanted to do great work for them and create high-quality content. But the management wasn’t interested in that at all—they just wanted to rank quickly with SEO content and get 2,000 blogs with SEO-optimized text live as fast as possible. In hindsight, I dragged my feet on that for too long—I wouldn’t do that again. If you know better, you should do it yourself, but in that case, I’ll wash my hands of it.

In your opinion, what type of business presents the greatest challenge in SEO, and why?

I think corporations and large organizations face the most challenges when it comes to SEO. What Google now expects from you is increasingly requiring a different approach, and corporations are often slow to adapt. I personally don’t enjoy working for them at all. I prefer to work for smaller clients who can adapt quickly, like the medical company. There, we saw that they were ranking highly for everything but were still losing traffic because the CTR was under pressure. That’s when you have to think fast: what are we going to do to make sure people still find our content—our message? In less than a few months, videos and podcasts were online, and we’re now seeing that, on the bottom line, they seem to be making up for what we’re losing in SEO traffic.

If you could debunk one SEO myth, which one would it be and why?

The myth that SEO is something that can be managed by a single person or department within an organization. SEO requires the commitment of an entire organization, because you can’t build E-E-A-T with just some SEO content or an author bio and page. Without the input and buy-in from experts, you’ll keep creating SEO content that’s already in abundance: “apple pie content,” as I call it. The key lies in adding value, and that requires the involvement of many more people throughout the company.

What is the most important piece of advice you’d like to share with other SEO specialists?

Broadening your approach is essential. SEO is no longer just about writing a piece of text with a few keywords thrown in. Look beyond that and work on building broad organic reach across multiple channels and content formats—all of which can also rank well in SEO. This integrated approach is becoming increasingly important for success.

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Jarik Oosting

This article is written by Jarik Oosting

With a passion for SEO and an unmatched drive for results, Jarik Oosting is the driving force behind SmartRanking. With over 15 years of experience in the field, he has built an extensive body of knowledge spanning technical SEO to complex site migrations. As the founder of SmartRanking, he has assembled a team of like-minded SEO specialists who help businesses achieve sustainable online growth.

His academic background in information science at the University of Groningen, with a specialization in natural language processing, gives him a unique perspective on the world of SEO. For Jarik, it’s not just about visibility in search engines, it’s about sharing knowledge and guiding businesses toward sustainable online success. That mission also led him to write a Dutch book about GEO.

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